such an eqsuisite piece of music, especially the interlude

and an excellent article as wll. well done duncan

i agree but i much prefer bach's prelude in d minor

especially when played by ann elise smoot

Wonderfull tea too . I especially loved the watercress sandwiches and the canapes.

yes. espceially after an assembly. i heard the last one 3 times in argentina after the classical festival there 3 years back

Well I hear that Glyndebourne will be playing it this year. What about an ICU boat trio there?

not necessarily out of the question

Jolly good idea.

wonder if we can get the same catereres, the sandwiches were spiffing. And the serving women were lovely slavic flowers..

I think you will find they

were Iranian. Only Iranian

women have such feminine

strength and beauty.

and such eyebrows...

I think it is disgusting that IC participates in filthy zionist propaganda which glorifies in evil invasion of 1967.

Who invaded who? As this wonderful choral concert shows It was Israel who left Egypt. This is precisely the type of Philistinsim one has to face daily when talking to the average ragamuffin EE student.

Mohammed, G F Handel died on April 14, 1759, so I think it's a little 'pre-emptive', if you'll excuse the pun, to accuse him of filthy Zionist propaganda!

The Zionists have been controlling the world for hundreds of years.

didn't you know? I can recommend a great book called the "protocols of the elders of zion" that explains this vwery clearly.

handel was called handel because he was the pan-handle of zionist propaganda. it doesnt make a difference when he died, tom. you can't confuse the facts with your modern statistics.

why can we not just treat the lovely music that handel composed with the great respect it deseverd. unlike the music of other composers such as beethoven and mozart it was not at all political. handel's refernecs to israel and egypt are biblical, and not biblio-political or politically biblica. i hope that clears a few things up

from

jurgen

listen jurgen

sorry jurgen, got vut off there. what do you know about music anyway? where were you when vivaldi composed his trilogy for bas in e flat major? all music is politica. music is multi-institutional and quasi-beureaucratical. no less was said by peter stringfellow

i agree. this sea-change in the local diagnostic sphere is most unhelpful/ linguistically, all practices are equally valid, whether terminological or not

Rather , I heard that Handel's work served as an inspiration for Hitler. Indeed his famous Bayreuth festival was always attended by Hitler. It is really insensitive for ICU to play Handel as it clearly doesn't respect the Students who fought in the war or those that died at the Somme because of Music like this. Indeed some friends of mine in materials were personally offended.

i also heard that it severd as an inspiration to mussolii and john major

who was john major

he was a modern british pm

in china we dont have john major

no, you have jiang zemin

in china we not have transgenders because chinese government say we can not. however, i once knew li hong who was a man that look like woman and xing hang chu who was fat as a bee and quick like a man

and more, but i do not have time to say

ps, sorry i didnt answer. call at half past

IC is a secular institution and it oppresses our freedom of worship to have IC associated with a composer who is so strongly associated with the Judeo-Christian tyranny of Western Capitalist states. All of his works are rooted in pro-zionist sympathies.

mohammed makes his comment sin his typical gingerly fashion, but doesnt take responsibility for what he says, leaving his words to burn over, like hot coals

1/ this is discrimination because there isn't enough space for my name, and also mohammed is speaking rubbish - handel has nothing to do with judeo-christian tyranies. judeo-christian as an adjective means things that christianity has borrowed from judaism and then bastardised

who are all these big girls blouses

maybe i'll make a microphone and electricute my frizzy ginger hair

maybe i'll make a microphone and electricute my frizzy blonde hair

who has hijacked my forum for discussing the polution outside my window. everyone knows i am the most poluted

this whole thing has become ridiculous. everyone knows that handel's music was of a most supreme nature. it is often said that conflict is in the eye of the beholder and people who wish to super-impose realpolitik into handel's beutiful musical arrangements should be embargoed

i must agree - we are always opposed to embargos. once, xing hao was late for civics lesson about the people of Heilongjiang province and no one embargoed him

yes, the great leader has always taught that there should oly be embargos against america, who is evil

but we have to understand that in the context of the fact that north korea uder the kims is hardly the omst democratic place on earth

this is wrong and false. north korea is the biggest democracy. soon we will unify with south korea. it is the lies and the propaganda of the west that is distorting the truth of the revolution

but why is no one talking about sweden? sweden is where handel would take his holidays.

yes. this realy discriminates against swedish students. we are never recognised for our incredible contributions to handel's music

i think you are all crazy, yes? you have all forgotten the contribution of the greeks to democracy that gave handel the opportunity to write his masterpieces

i prefer britney spears

i prefer the works of the great leaders

I prefer to be right and I was in both senses.

I also feel like chicken tonight. like chicken tonight..

what about hydrogenation?

Good sabbath

How many IC students does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Just one - but it's the only thing they know how to do.

That was rather poor peter?

At least put the punchline on the same post. A lot of EE students have serious difficculty screwing (lightbulbs)

welcome to the live community.

Don't push me push a push pop.

why is there no mention of the contribution to realpolitik that was made by the south american states

this is a disgrace. how are we supposed to cope?

this thread seems to be spiralling out of control

but it's still quite a popular thread

yes it is rather isn't it

why do u think that might be

well it could be because handel is quite an emotive subject when mixed with realpolitik

i heard that handel was often quite influenced by ofra haza's works

this is true, but people forget the influence of composers such as rami kleinstein and dag nachash on composers of that era.

yes, but i myself hear traces of shlomo artsi and aviv gefen in handel's pieces. also, could it be that his fondness for biblical narrative was influenced by tsvika pik

there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that

his narrative is clearly biased in favour of the israelites and is a complete misinterpretation of the text. it completely ignores the israelites provocation of the international community with ten plagues

yes, the ten plagues were not at all an proportionate response to egypt's minor human rights violations.

and an undermining of the sovereignty of egypt's democratically elected PM, pharoah.

the exodus never happened - the israelites were very happy in egypt

not just the qife of moshe, but also the modern day ex chair. what do i think about handel? well...

i'm fat because i eat popcorn when i listen to handel

stop interfering in the musical system

i'm sick of hearing right wing interpretations of handel. can we not move on to mozart

i have a phd in handel

I'll be judge of that. Why don't they play Jesus christ superstar- I will be happy to play the lead role.

Pourqui pas a bit of debusssy

i feel i have to try and communicate this post to you all

I think you need to manage things better

i thought i'd randomnly post even though u dont know me

we're putting u on r list just in case you're all related to us

shalva?

peasents unite

did handel live before the invention of the te-e-e-le-e-ef-o-o-n

handel wasn't a member of the swp

are you cussing me cos i is oriental

if handel came near me i'd do krav maga on him and step on his foot

Now my son get to sleep..

i'm back, and this is obviously the coolest thread

Welcome back Valentina. Get ready to spar.

Amram still rules!

how can you say that you are better than valentina. she's the best thing ever

this is just another example of amram's left wing propaganda

ha ha amram - i've got your job and you still haven't had time to shave

what's this got to do with handel, and what's handel go to do with organic chemistry

sorry, i've just got back from some randomn afairs i'm having with members of staff - did i miss anything? i used to listen to handel when i was in soweto. did i tell you about that?

It is clear that Valentina is part of the Arabist propaganda that has overcome this website. Valentina is an opressor, a woman who hold these wild feminist views that seek to discriminate agianst the male elite who top IC list of successes. she also represents the age-old antisemitism claiming to be from Jesus' disciples and yet condeming his people. She is just as bad as mel gibson or sarah jessica parker!

how dare you talk about feminism amram. everyone knows it is all a zionist conpiracy to exploit women and make them buy handel records

This is clearly a very popular topic. I had no idea that Handel would inspire such a strengh of feeling.

It also seems to be being used by many, many (two?) people with far too much time on their hands; time that might be better spent coming to support the Choir's next offering, Elgar's "Dream of Gerontius" on Friday, 19th March.

It's just occurred to me that what's worse is I actually *read* that cr@p!

it is definately true. we must support the Choir's next offering, Elgar's "Dream of Gerontius" on Friday, 19th March. marmeduke? will u be there? maybe we can get an article here about that as well, thus spreading musical knowledge further

ja, i think we must all go

Unfortunately I will be going down to the countryside for a spot of Pheasant shooting and will indeed miss the Choir's next performance. I wonder Helmut, are you related to Thomas Lapid-vonkfar sava. I hear he is of good Aystro-hungarian stock too. A wonderfully tolerant man who as I understand had aspirations to join the clergy when he was younger.

yes i also know yvette lieberman von nokdim

i am close friends with abraham birk, who is a poor speaker, and he tells me that handel was very much influenced by composers such as inbal gabriellite and saul moffat.

Just doing my bit cotter. let the war begin. Helmut , makes an intersting point but in thelight of day don't you mean Yvette von-st petersburg.

what the f**k r u ppl talking about thorughtout this thread. have you got nothing better to do with your lives you sad gimps

get a life u gimps

Listen biy behave or I'll have to put your name in one of my folders at the back of my office Mr. "wtf" don't you get it we've taken over this forum ha ha ha (evil cackle) as has our army of injokes innuendos and swipes at Handel. It must be said that if you can't Handel the heat get out of the kitchen

Actually we are all students at Gimperial so that makes you a gimp too.

I vote for Handel as new President of IC

Good idea. But was he chinese?

No but he did love sweet and sour chicken

But everyone knows that he is recognized in England and by many in Germany as the greatest composer of his day. The wide range of expression at his command is shown not only in the operas, with their rich and varied arias, but also in the form he created, the English oratorio, where it is applied to the fates of nations as well as individuals. He had a vivid sense of drama. But above all he had a resource and originality of invention, to be seen in the extraordinary variety of music in the op.6 concertos, for example, in which melodic beauty, boldness and humour all play a part, that place him and J.S. Bach as the supreme masters of the Baroque era in music. Indeed his fondness for running through the streets of Hamburg naked shouting Ich bin ein Kappelmeister can be attributed to his tourets syndrome. As can his penchant for breaking wind during performances.

Aha he must been Chinese! My uncle Wats Wong used to break wind during performance of the peoples circus. Yes that was in the good ol days of Mao.

Tut tut, It is totally unacceptable comparing Wats Wong with Handel. It makes an unacceptable comparison between Ying and Yang, between communism and freedom, between right and wrong, between Ant and Dec..

The People's Republic of China is a New Democratic or a People's Democratic state. It carries out the people's democratic dictatorship led by the working class, based on the alliance of workers and peasants, and uniting all democratic classes and all nationalities in China. It opposes imperialism, feudalism and bureaucratic capitalism and strives for independence, democracy, peace, unity, prosperity and strength of China.It encourages the production of Egg fu young, and opposes American Capitalism as represented by the ever evil Uncle Ben whose culinary capitalism is worse than Uncle Sam's disney-led oppression of the chinese women.

i agree - where is our sense of imperial spirit - the one that defeated the germans during the war

hey you guys, it was the americans that defeated the germans!

non, it was the french we surrendered, lulling them into a false sense of security, making them fall into our trap so we could get the americans to come over and join the fight

the wasr was caused by evil capitalists

and zionists obviously

Now we see how Live has been taken over by the Islamic lobby. Indeed a discussion on Handle has been hijacked by those who would pan-handel the middle east.

It is high time that we in the arts community

Hello, all I would like to announce that I will be singing in front of the Rector at a special concert held in conjunction with Luton University...

Atul make that 37 :-)

we in the arts community must immediately act to secure the future of handel and christina aguilera before it will be too late

goodness me, this thread does seem to be slowing down a bit after all the initial enthusiasm

apparently the posters didn't like the censorship practices on live...

i think this thread is really good because it gives people of all differemt nationalities to discuss handel and what general mao did for them

what did mao ever do for anyone

he did many things. he was an excellent swimmer for example

ally also likes bowling. also, so do the great leaders

who the hell mentioned anything about bowling?

sorry, got a bit ahead of myself again. do you know who else likes bowling AND also listening to handel

the s**te muslims in iraq

why do you write their name in asterisks?

he didn't. it's this pesky website - if you say shi-ite then it thinks you are trying to use the s-word and so censors you. there will be no unilateral withdrawal from the asterisks

anybody seen my portaloo?

maybe u left it in the science department

yes, i' confiscated it because i'm horrible

and now i'm here again

Whose Charlie?

It is clear that Handel is a very emotional issue for everybody. Let us all agree to disagree and enjoy the wondrous melodies, the wondeful tones and the glorious arias. Must Dash as

Question time is at IC tonight...

Et cum spirito tuo.

His Excellency, Sam Sharpe, Lord High Protector aka His Excellency, Sam Sharpe, Lord High Protector

Isn't that odd, the name boxes aren't censored for swearwords

what people seem to fail to appreciate is that although we at imperial are helping to ensure that the legacy of handel is not forgotten, unless events like these achieve greater publicity then are efforts may be fruitless

this time i agree entirely with what tim has said

His Excellency, Sam Sharpe, Lord High Protector

mmm... i forgot about that particular swear filter

just in case - don't type the letters b, a, l, d, i and e next to each other - you won't get what you intended...

His Excellency, Sam Sharpe, Lord High Protector

I'd be fairly certain that your comments are being censored because the Live! editors feel they aren't appropriate. I'm sure they can explain better than I can.

Also you do have the right to express your opinion. Live has the right to remove it from _their_ site if they feel they are inappropriate or do not reasonably represent the opinions of the students running the site. It is CGCU's site afterall. Think of it like writing to The Times, it would be unreasonable to expect them to publish every single letter they get no matter what it says.

Dear Moderator/ Editor

I was wondering if there was a problem with this thread because I keep trying to post my opinions on Mustafa's comments but they keep getting deleted. I think that cleanliness all round IC is a problem that we need to address quickly and I would be gratefrul if you would let me know if there is some technical problem with this thread because my posts kep getting deleted.

The Live! forums exist for the use of all Imperial students to discuss issues of interest to Imperial students. These forums are moderated by the Live! Editors and we do sometimes find it necessary to remove posts in the interest of keeping the site constructive and relevant.

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