Live!
Thu 22 Feb 2018
- The award-winning student news website of Imperial College

Know something you shouldn't? Tell us, using our quick, 100% anonymous tip-off form!

Discussion

Departments Fail to Deliver PhD Pay Rise

The comments below are unmoderated submissions by Live! readers. The Editor accepts no liability for their content, nor for any offence caused by them. Any complaints should be directed to the Editor.
Aug 07 2007 13:26
 

Some of the college's departments have failed to deliver the pay rise to PhD students on time.

Click Here for the Full Article

Aug 07 2007 14:57
 

PhD students were aware of their funding levels when they accepted their position. It might not be fair, but it's not stealing.

Tabloid tactics help no one. You should be concentrating on the problem of the newly agreed stipends apparently not being received, not making silly remarks like that.

Aug 07 2007 15:30
 

Certainly not stolen. However, money is given to the college so students can receive 14000 per year. They receive 2000 less than that, the college takes the difference.

Sounds like embezzlement...

"Misappropriation or misapplication of money or property entrusted to one's care, custody, or control."

Aug 07 2007 15:50
 

Except that it isn't actually misappropriation. The EPSRC sets a minimum level, which for 06/07 was ?12,300. Application of London Weighting is at the discretion of the owner of the pot of money - this is why Maths were only paying the minimum and there was a lot of variation. They are "free to switch funding to other areas of related expenditure, such as consumables, travel, conferences, external training courses and career guidance".

However, a number of people I've spoken to have described it as "theft", because they were told that their bursary offer was *higher* than normal. It turns out it was higher than the base level, but lower than the weighted minimum.

4. query   
Aug 07 2007 16:35
 

Couldn't the ICT president got out of jury service? Aren't there opt-outs for such an important post?

5. query   
Aug 07 2007 16:37
 

sorry - ICU not ICT

Aug 07 2007 19:34
 

Ideally, all PhD students would be paid well. But the Maths department seems to have realised that there are enough keen students eager to work with their prospective supervisors that they will put up with the deprivation. Very clever.

7. Simon   
Aug 07 2007 19:44
 

Probably a bit hard to explain to people how there could be a major issue outside of term time, as most people seem to thing Uni's just STOP after the end of term. Like a lot of students. Bit of a tough break, but hard to do anything about.

I'm pretty p***ed, i was in RWD when we strongly debated this issue, and at the forum where we decided that this should be the major talking point for the Sabs to take to College, and was very happy when things seemed to be moving so fast. For some departments to be dragging their feet is deplorable, though credit to those that pulled their thumbs out and did something about it (i know a physicist mate that will be pretty happy about that).

Having lived with PhDs for two years at Clayponds, i am probably one of few undergrads (well, ex undergrad) who realise it is neither well paid, or easy, to be a PhD student, let alone in London.

Now if only the GSA farce had been averted, there would have at least been somebody around to do some immediate whip cracking.

Add your comment:

If you can see this, something is broken (either with your browser, or with our system). Please leave the box below empty, or your comment will be considered to be spam.
Live!
Live!