i also support the crest's usage and visibility - if you have it you might as well show it; other institutions wish they had a crest of their own.
is there any chance that the people supporting it's removal from official status wanted to weaken links or the impression thereof to the 'empire' and the monarchy as we're moving into the 21st century?
God Save the Queen * cough
but, seriously, you have to have a crest regardless.
I don't think there's any plan to re-introduce it as part of the "official" branding. It just isn't banned anymore (there have been numerous reports of incidents where communications have sent stroppy emails to people using the crest).
in reply to post 15, I was going to say are you sure its not just a cost saving exercise so they don't have to teach lecturers how to change the master slide in powerpoint and also estates don't have to keep buying more vinyl stickers...
When Imperial was founded in 1907 with RSM and RCS coming together, (C&GC not until 1910), it was King Edward VII woh signed the Royal Charter, and allowed to college to used the royal coat of arms. Which is the same as the House of Winsor's.
Who actually gives a f**k? You make it sound like it's some sort of godsend. The crest makes zero difference to Imperial as it is. Image comes from good academia and not from a coat of arms that is essentially the same as the royal family's.
Mustafa Arif: nobody cares about you, and they never did. Haven't you got a life yet since you left IC 3 years ago? Why the hell are you still posting here?? p*** off.
F**k the crest: If it shares ANYTHING with the royal family, then I'd much rather have the current blue logo - it looks much smarter and more modern than some crest designed for a load of inbred and ill educated toffs.
"Image comes from good academia"... if one is so educated and knowledgeable, one should use the term Shield or Coat of Arms, not Crest... the dumbing down of extra-curricular education has clearly affected the Communications Department, shame that even the brightest students in the country have been affected too.
To be honest, I agree with 21 that "the much smarter and more modern" look is better as a communication brand. The shield is awesome in other situations like the degree certificates. I think the college need a flexible and enforceable policy on this.
Good point about the use of the word 'crest' instead of shield. There was one point when I'd written the whole article with the word 'shield' instead of crest but changed it back when all references to it on the College website called it a 'crest'. My mistake. I considered using 'Coat of Arms' but it took up too much space in the title.
In response to 21 and your question "Why the hell are you still posting here??". Live! welcomes contributions from anybody - current IC students, students from other universities, staff, alumni and randomers who stumble across the website on Google. As an Imperial College alumnus, past IC President and past Live! Editor I hope Mustafa continues posting here for a long time to come and his contributions are welcomed along with everyone elses.