If they are both planned for the same week (though as far as I know, a date hasn't been announced for the Medics) then they will have to compete for my custom. If IC put on a better-looking event then they will doubtless get medics in their droves.
Personally I've always thought you shouldn't attribute to malificence what is more likely to be coincedence.
The other spin you could put on this story is that that both balls will damage each other's ticket sales, rather than a one-way street. If this is malicious, the organisers of the medic's ball would have to be very cocky to be sure that their ticket sales wouldn't be hurt too.
I quite agree. Sounds more like a communications cock-up than anything malicious.
The last time the ICSM and IC balls were in the same week they both made a big loss (and the following year's ICU President, Tasha Newton, had to go grovelling to College to ask for an ?x0,000 bail-out!)
No doubt someone will chip-in to the discussion to remind me what 'x' was.
To be fair, the Medics Summer Ball is on the last day of term, which is the date it has been on for the last 5 years at least. Traditionally, the IC Summer Ball is much earlier. Fault lies at their door, not the medics.
The Medics Summer Ball is always set to coincide with Finals Result Day - as a way of saying "farewell" to the medical school - and I declare an interest, as this will be my last Summer Ball.
A senior ICSMSU source tells me that the date for the medic Summer Ball has therefore been set, in stone, for the last three months. can we be enlightened as to when the IC Summer Ball Committee set a date?
There is a whole extra week in the non-medic term so it could be moved it back if the ICU Executive feel that it would suffer by comparison with the medic ball. However, they are catering to very different markets: ICSM have a sit down black tie dinner; the IC equivalent is much more a mega-carnival; more of a party.
The venue for the Medic Ball, by the way, has not been fully decided; the choice is currently between a hotel in Docklands and the St Georges Hospital Medical School sports fields, not "an undisclosed IC sports ground". This is because, like in so many other aspects at Imperial, there would be plenty of barriers put up by Union and College.
The date of the "IC" summer ball has been 21st June for as long as I am aware this year. So i suspect that would have been sometime in October, if not the last week in spetember that i would have asked about it
Now, we could have the ball earlier. 'cept then it is during exams. So it got moved to its current position to make everyone happy. As Far As I Know
I just don't get this "evil medics try to wreck everything" take on stuff; we were fed it about the Reynolds bar debacle, last year's summer ball, various sab elections, etc, etc. Why on earth would a quarter of the college's UG population see it as their collective goal to c*** on the remaining 3/4?
It seems to me that the people with the problem are those who peddle this trash.
There are two ways you can view the medic/non medic debate generally:
1) The medics are delibrately obstructive because they don't want to be tarred with the malaise and apathy sweeping the rest of the union.
2) the non medics are jealous of a group of students who can get actually organised and focus on things and are interested in helping their members rather than dithering.
Personally as an ex-non-medic, I think its a bit of both. I've always thought the medics have got a bum deal because they are spread around london and the focus is always south ken (especially in elections 14 boxes for south ken, 1 for the medics? thats hardly fair.).
On the other hand I've always thought the medics have been a little heavy handed in their determination (not quite Rumsfeld-esque but hey), and the problems tend to stem for personality clashes and communication problems more than anything.
Then again, with the current president in charge, can you blame them for not wanting to get further away...