Live!
Tue 06 Jan 2009
- The award-winning student news website of Imperial College

Live! - News

Fill the blank: ICU Election F_____

Nov 16 2005 17:12
Chris Jackson
In a shock to all concerned in Imperial College Union elections a farce has occured.
Munkey has been cleared of any impropriety

Readers with a good memory may remember voting in ICU council elections a while ago and those more interested in union hackery may have wondered when we would get to hear the results.

The delay in the results has been caused by the need to consider 2 complaints regarding the use of email lists in campaigning. Candidates are not allowed to use union email lists as part of their campaigning and are clearly warned that doing so will result in disqualification, therefore it is necesary to investigate such allegations. It is also believed that the emails only listed a subset of candidates rather than a comprehensive list.

A paper to be heard at the executive of ICU informs the reader that complaints were received and investigated by interviewing the candidates involved and analysing the voting patterns and emails with ICT.

The paper goes onto state:

"Having identified that the following candidates either instructed the senders to campaign on their behalf, or were aware that the senders were campaigning for them, the Executive felt it had no choice but to disqualify:

Tanvirul Alam, Omar Hashmi, Sagir (Haji) Hassam, Mustaffa Junaid and Shazad Khalid."

All other candidates were cleared as having not been aware or in control of emails been sent on their behalf and thus no further action was taken.

Email this Article | Share on Facebook

Discussion about “Fill the blank: ICU Election F_____”

The comments below are unmoderated submissions by Live! readers. The Editor accepts no liability for their content, nor for any offence caused by them. Any complaints should be directed to the Editor.
Nov 16 2005 17:28
 

Any prizes for guessing which society list these guys were abusing? Go on!

Nov 16 2005 17:39
 

This is an outrage to the muslim community! Our brothers in arms have once again been persecuted!!

We must wage a holy War against the corrupt policies of the fascist western ideology of ICU!!!

Nov 16 2005 17:48
 

If you take a look at the list of people cleared of the allegations you might note that many more people were cleared, many of whom have names that would appear to suggest muslim ethnicity.

Nov 16 2005 18:00
 

those zionist-controlled pig-dog infidels at ICU will pay for this!

Nov 16 2005 18:02
 

ICU? Pay? For anything?

Have you met Dave Parry???

Nov 16 2005 19:21
 

I beleive the blank has already been filled by Live! readers:

http://live.cgcu.net/polls/y2004m10

Nov 16 2005 19:35
 

But is the profanity filter still set?

Lets see...

Election

Nov 16 2005 19:43
 

..undamentalists

Nov 17 2005 12:07
 

Hmmm... Whilst tetering on the edge of the staff-student protocol, I would like to point out that the union finance manager is not responsible for spending anything. His job is to clear up the mess after the President, DPFS, Council, SAC etc... have spent it.

If he were allowed to spend it, I'm sure he would assuming it routed him well on the way to world domination.

10. Seb   
Nov 17 2005 16:25
 

But he has often been able to provide very good defences for not spending money. Which is the point.

11. Seb   
Nov 17 2005 16:26
 

So, these council candidates, they wouldn't be a SWS slate would they?

Or was it an OSS maffia?

Nov 19 2005 21:04
 

Well, the Equal Opps Officer count took place last night, but the Council OM count will have to wait until Thursday as one or two candidates are lodging appeals.

13. Hmm   
Nov 20 2005 11:35
 

Does anyone think that perhaps we should go back to the old system of voting these people in at first Council? It occurs to me that at least with the old system we had more students participating in the democratic process at Council during the first term of the year, and while fewer people voted for reps there was minimal risk of candidates breaking electrion regulations. Now we're lucky if our reps get elected by Christmas!

Nov 20 2005 11:37
 

Hmmmm,

Something creaked my coffin:

"analysing the voting patterns and emails"

I contend that the only valid analysis would be members of the mailing list concerned and the way they actually voted. In order to perform this analysis, you need to either know directly how people have voted or to be able to track the votes back to the person concerned.

So either the secrecy of the ballot was violated, or the analysis was invalid...

  • -

DataMunkey

Nov 20 2005 13:26
 

The last time I looked at the voting system it was fairly insecure anyway. It simply stores all the votes in a text file or equivalent on the server. Anyone with the old "root access" like me used to be able to get in - not sure if they put a stop to that yet...

Dec 05 2005 18:23
 

A system surely has a user with access to root (or equivalent). Thus, by definition, there will always be someone who can access everything. One would hope that this is a trustworthy person.

Now if ICU can't manage their system administrators properly, surely this is a fault of them and not the ballot.

Oh, and its not possible to match any username to a paper, so thats ok :)

17. Haji   
Sep 09 2006 01:18
 

They actually did analyse voting before and after the mails were sent to the mailing lists. There was no effect, but actions are judged by their alleged intentions and not the consequences...(If we only lived in the Minority Report world...)

18. hmm   
Sep 11 2006 15:24
 

So you mean to say that your cleverly sent spam mail had no effect on voting? Good thing it didn't - but you still cheated...

Sep 12 2006 16:36
 

Oh yeah.. 'hmm' torched your ass there, Haji, he torched yo ass!!

Add your comment:

If you can see this, something is broken (either with your browser, or with our system). Please leave the box below empty, or your comment will be considered to be spam.
Live!

Live! Poll

How did you celebrate the New Year?





Live!
5 Readers Online
0 on this page