Just brilliant. Does look very good there. Having come down myself to look is is a marvious site!!!!

Update: We now have two pieces.

How... sad! Are Guilds the only CCU awake at this time of year?!

I hope that the miners and scientists will eventually wake up come October and either pay up or reclaim their mascots.... it could be a good year for mascotry!

But Spanner and Bolt shall remain ours!!!

I suppose I will have to be made now!

I wonder, I really wonder... Does anyone outside the usual array of CGCU execs care?

Alumni care - mascotry was a major sport until some killjoys decided they didn't want to play any more.

It should be seen in the context of what it is - a way to raise money for charity while testing your lock cracking skills. The ransom should be raised by charity collections or organising a charity fundraising event. Pints of blood - much needed - have also been considered acceptable substitutes for cash in the past.

Unfortunately the RCSU seems more concerned with partying than helping those less fortunate than themselves, if what their VPO says is true.

The miners seem to be slightly more up for the game, but it would be good to see their money (or blood) where their mouth is.

Thanks, Alumnus. Very well put and dead right too - it's all for charity.

The question is... will the RCSU be brave enough to follow its own traditions and Round Pond Theta IV now it has been violated?

I think in the interests of prudence we should allow the new RCSU to break that tradition. I'd hate to see money spent on a new mascot (or have it not be replaced) when money could go to charity.

Put that way, I don't think anyone would object to that. :)

I don't think it's even valid until I have the other parts, which I think will prove a challenge.

But it would be nice to see them produce a new mascot if we do manage it... I wonder if Thetas of Old are still in the pond? Perhaps we should try to drag it to see.

re: alumnus' comment and the subsequent ones

honestly, outside a minute part of the already few people who even know what the faculty unions are, nobody cares.

if you can raise money by stealing a stupid piece of garbage, go ahead, that's great. but nobody should believe that any 'normal' student actually realises youre doing so, or gives a damn.

I have no idea how much it would cost to make a new Theta, but I'm sure donations can be found from people (alumni, perhaps) that would like to see that tradition upheld, but wouldn't necessarily donate directly to RAG.

As for Alumnus' comments about "killjoys"; it's worth noting that (AFAIK) Theta always remained violate, the only mascot to do so. In my era, Spanner & Bolt and Davy were all inviolate, so we had no-one to play with. I don't know whether Mike has ever been violate.

Mascotry, of course, hasn't been the same since the car accident of the early 90s; I'm pleased that at least one of the CCUs has found someone who cares enough to at least try to resurrect it!

even if mike has never been violate... lets make it violate... because who really cares if we have a micrometer or not... and lets face the amount of "free" drinks this years sabbs are enjoying there would be plenty of opportunities to nick it if Steve was forced to bring it to every event/trading bonding session/paint dbs cream/officer training/we got out of bed today... (union equivilent to a bar night?)

Well, if you can get Council to repeal its "Mike the Micrometer policy" (http://www.imperialcollegeunion.org/data/files/mike-the-micrometer-policy-274.pdf), especially the preposterous section 2...

Tristan you sneaky bastard. That's why you were asking where the office was. You are terrible and someday will get your comeuppance. Not that I give a s**t about Theta; actually I find this stealing stuff vaguely amusing.

Mascotry? Actually, yes: I care. I care a lot, having been involved with the sport during my years at college. Pride, competition, the battle of wits - all good things which seem to have lost their way a bit. I am RCS through and through (apart from a recent ill-advised dalliance with King's College recently) and perhaps i should be sad about this, but actually it really cheers me up that some people are starting things up again. Good on you. Let's just hope this can continue in a 'gentlemanly' way (no sexism intended) and doesn't descend into tit-for-tat reprisals. Round Pond? Perhaps not - Theta MkIV is an impressive piece of engineering, and one of the two people who made it sadly died in an air crash in 1986, so I think it should be kept. A bit of audacious action to get violate mascots? Yes please, and RCSU - do pay up, it's for charity. BUT - and it's a big but, let's not start nicking inviolate mascots or damaging things to'get back at them' - it's lots of fun if you play by the rules, and just petty if you don't. Best Regards.

I heard RSM got the violate Davy back has Tristen surrendered the inviolate one yet? Next time you need to find out which Davy you shouldn't have stolen get a valuation done... the worthless one is Violate.

That isn't what the new agreement signed by the mines president says.

Ahh, perfidy, an integral part of mascotry.

The RSM president lied and got Guilds to give the violate Davy back gratis leaving them with the inviolate one, the posession of which is handling stolen goods, brilliant!

Well done Danny on that one, Tristan, the miners pulled the wool over your eyes...

Sorry, but 5 copies of a document signed by the RSM president makes it a violate mascot, regardless of any attempts by spineless and incompetent miners to backtrack later.

So it isn't handling stolen goods and the brass Davy is violate, unless the RSM President's signature is worthless. In which case, RSM should have their budget frozen for the year because the financial responsibility form will also be invalid.

The budget is already frozen... so there!!!

And no officer may act without authorisation of his/her committee and the brass Davy is not violate.

Your document is worthless, the signature is not... keep it as a souvenir if you like...

That is a matter for the RSM committee to take up with their President and none of Guilds concern.

Apparently the RSM aren't very charitable either.

Still, what are the chances of RSM having changed the code on their office door since last time?

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Get a load of miners in the back of your lorry and donate some blood.

Yes, it's true that the RSM President has voluntarily made the real Davey - the bright one with a plaque - violate. I have several signed copies of a document to this effect. Therefore I gave him back the shoddy old one.

The guilds office must be one of the most efficient places now.

Collins rearranged it in 2004 to make it more efficient and bought a meeting table, then i rearranged it to make it more efficient and moved the meeting table out of the main room, then it was briefly Fokked (no offense James) and the meeting table went back to the main room, and now it's been made even more efficient with the meeting table (presumably the same one?) back in the back room.

It's progress like this that makes CGCU the best!

There I was in the gym exercising away watching TV to kill my boredom and some new report regarding the Oyster card shambles popped up on BBC, and on the background....the Queens Lawn! Not only that but some random sabbs were being interviewed (that's happened before, nothing exciting there..) and then Ashley was there on behalf of Live! Who would've thought all those years ago that Live! would make it to the BBC. Congrats C&G, you are going a long way.

Atul,

Look closer - Ashley is parading a 'used' RCS Motor Club polo shirt - GO RCS!

When I were an active C&G lad (mid 80s), use of capital letters to describe other, minor, CCUs was serious offence! Glad to hear that theta has a new good, caring, home and money for charity should be the outcome.

I'm ex-RCS Mascotry, through and through. I've seen spanner and bolt come through our hands TWICE, as I have seen many other mascots fall into the clutches of the Black Hole. Part of me is sad that after all these years Theta IV has been nicked (at least it wasn't on my watch), but I'm enthused by the prospect of this all starting again. It's a fun game, if don't take it too seriously, and enjoy what you will never be able to do again.

I recall in '91 when s&b were nicked, the cgu vice president had the guts to come to the party, especially as it was happenning right above his head! (my best regards Joe, if you read this). It was all about a bit of competition, a bit of rivalry, and some beers with your adversaries afterwards.

To all: I'm glad to hear of your enthusiasm. Don't let it die off. It is the best adrenalin rush you can have, and you only get your time at College to play.

Regards to all, (esp JF).

So Tristan did even less this year! Stealing a fake Theta....

No wonder they couldn't put it together when it was ransomed back!