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C&G to ‘elect a name’

Jan 18 2002 14:54
Merton Martin
In one of the most bizarre decisions to come out of C&GCU in recent years, the Union has decided that it will 'elect' a name for the engineering FSA.
Whatever the name, the C&GCU shield logo looks certain to be preserved.

In a slightly bizarre meeting of City & Guilds College Union Council last night the Union's sovereign body decided that it would hold elections for a new name.

The decision of ICU Council to create 'Faculty Student Associations has left the constituent parts of Imperial College Union in a state of some confusion over what must be done in preparation for next year. City & Guilds College Union will be holding elections for positions within the student association for the Faculty of Engineering (synchronised with the Royal School of Mines CSC elections). Faced with the niggling issue of what to call themselves, C&GCU Council decided that the issue should be settled by a referendum to be held at the same time as the elections for officers.

However, no one could think of a suitable yes-or-no question to ask. Faced with a potential impasse, the Council choose to adopt the slightly strange notion of 'electing' a name from a series of options. Nomination papers for the name will go up along with those for officers, and will probably require a proposer and 10 seconders. It's too early to tell what students will choose to call their 'union' (faculty student's association...) but the current City & Guilds College Union is believed to be a strong favourite amongst many C&GCU officers. "We should keep the C&GCU brand!" exclaimed C&G Motor Club Captain David Lamb, while C&GCU Treasurer Oliver Pell observed that "the cost of re-branding would be horrendous."

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Jan 18 2002 15:36
 

Perhaps C&G have forgotten the link that the new Faculty of Engineering FSA will have to the RSM. Perhaps they should be consullted as well about the logo?

Jan 18 2002 15:53
 

Why? The RSMU won't be consulted on the logo any more than the current C&GCU will be - it will be decided by the officers next year. I would suggest that it seems likely that the shield will be kept, though - it's just easier.

3. Dan L   
Jan 18 2002 17:15
 

If the clubs within the FSA will retain the C&G name, then it makes sense to keep the C&G name - after all we do benefit financially from the City because we have the C&G name.

RSM have their own CSC, so they will retain their name too! Let's see what the election results are! It could be interesting.

Jan 18 2002 19:04
 

I think the idea from ICU Council was that the Faculty Student Associations were supposed to be called just that - ie the "Faculty of Engineering Student Association". Deliberate emphasis was put on not putting the word "union" in the name, and on not making a direct link to the CCU names to avoid causing confusion among future students.

This of course will not be popular with current CCU people, but it's what council said. Beware the wrath of Sen et al.

Jan 18 2002 19:16
 

Hence the election, I suppose. Even the most power-hungry member of ICU Council can hardly argue effectively against something that was chosen in a free and fair yadda yadda. Even if it's the 'tellytubbies alliance of IC'...

Jan 18 2002 20:06
 

RSM should be consulted on this issue as it regards the majority of their students. C&G should remeber that, for all intensive purposes RSM will be absorbed into the Faculty of Engineering. As such students in the (currrent) RSM should be able to stand, and vote for the officers of the new FSA.

This would mean that it would be imperative that C&G and RSM get together to talk about these issues and not remain seperate. This is how students are left out and become alienated from these new organisations. Remember, without the students, there will be no Faculty of Engineering Student Association.

We have a chance to create something new and exciting. Let's break from the past and not muck these up right from the start.

Jan 18 2002 21:08
 

This has already happened. C&GCU (who are running the engineering FSA elections) have syncronised the election timetable so that the engineering and RSM CSC elections occur on the same day for precisely this reason. And obviously any engineering student would be free to stand.

Jan 19 2002 23:50
 

I think the medics are going along the line of:

"Imperial Medics - the Imperial College Faculty of Medicine Student Association"

All parties happy.

Jan 20 2002 00:26
 

What a mouthful :-)

Jan 21 2002 11:31
 

Well, here's my tup'nies worth:

Basically, the new FSA's should be called just that, as it's the name given to them in the ... *shudders to mentinon the "c" word*

But having an election for a name is a novel idea. I'm assuming this will allow antone to nominate a name of their own choosing, but how many seconders will each name have to have to be included? And will each option get the chance to complain about the eletion not being run fairly? And will there be a RON standing?

But seriously, well done C&G for doing something different (it's not often that happens, after all ...)

Logo-wise though, I think that ICU should impose itself a bit more and insist that the FSA's adopt a logo along a similar line to the ICU logo. Yes, we know it's pants, but it cost a lot of money, so we might as well use it as much as possible. It would also be a good way of making sure that ICU and the FSA's are seen as one and the same thing, reducing the current level of confusion amongst new students.

Anyhow, that was much longer than I'd intended it to be, so I'm going to leave it at that.

Jan 21 2002 17:59
 

An election is an election. All nominations require a proposer and ten seconders. There will be manifestos and hustings (invovling proposers). The votes will be counted using STV. New Election is deemed to be fully seconded.

12. Dan L   
Jan 21 2002 22:48
 

Well done o C&G on the name idea. At least they are asking students what they want - unlike some people.

Jan 24 2002 18:51
 

and what's wrong with calling it the teletubby union eh?

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