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NUS debate flops

Mar 11 2002 22:12
Simon Scrapmetal
In the interests of remaining impartial, Live! can only report on the barest details from today’s referendum debate.
Live!'s stock ICU/NUS image. It's not very good, we're just too lazy to make something better.

Today at 12:30 found the Great Hall in the Sherfield building hosting the first of two debates being held at the College as part of the Imperial College Union referendum on whether the Union should affiliate to the National Union of Students (NUS).

Little can be said about the debate itself, though a tape made by STOIC should be doing the rounds (and may even appear on the screens in the JCR if the referendum committee are on the ball). Attendance was very low, however, with the few members of the audience being virtually lost in the enormous seating capacity of the hall. The debates are supposed to be a key part of the referendum process, allowing interested students to learn the arguments for and against affiliation – the low attendance seriously compromises this aim. All hopes are now pinned on the second debate being held on the Charing Cross campus in the Drewe Lecture Theatre at 7pm tomorrow.

The debates were generally well advertised on a series of large (though soporific) ‘Union notice’ posters around college. However, the posters did not seem to entice students to attend, something that several members of the Union that this reporter has spoken to blame on the lack of free food available (which seems to be a key feature of virtually all other successful events).

Or maybe no-one cares. That’s apathy for you.

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Mar 12 2002 12:23
 

i don't! i don't!

Mar 12 2002 16:36
 

Whilst the turnout for the debate was terribly unpredictable, it was considered that The Great Hall should form the venue for the debate on this campus given its central and impartial location for students of all departments.

"The debates [allow] interested students to learn the arguments for and against affiliation" as quoted by your good self.

I feel that the level of advertising was unquestionably as large as feasible within our budget: Mass postering around the main campuses (South Ken, Charing Cross, St. Mary's), an advertisement in Felix and global e-mail to all IC students.

I disagree that the debate was a "flop". Assuming those interested students you refer to attended the debate, they had the opportunity to listen to both sides of the campaign and hence I feel we did achieve the aim of the debate.

I will leave you to draw your own conclusions about the supposed low turnout.

David C. Rolls

Returning Officer, NUS Referendum

Mar 12 2002 16:49
 

In other words you agree with Live!....;-)

Mar 12 2002 18:07
 

Here's a question I've just GOT to ask...

What does the "C." in David C. Rolls stand for?

Poll suggestions, anyone?

Mar 12 2002 20:31
 

"caring", "carefree", "charitable", "cun", "ing" :-)

So what numbers of students attended?

Why not just set fire to 35000 + another 35000 pounds a year and stuff the referendum :p

Mar 12 2002 20:48
 

Who was there? By the look of it - 10 people from the NUS, the yes campaign, the no campaign, the referendum committee and 10-15 'others' (all of whom seemed fairly hostile to the thought of throwing £35k away).

Oh, and the stewards.

We didn't exactly pack out the hall...

Mar 13 2002 11:09
 

Well, the Charing Cross debate was packed, there was standing room onyl, it got quite violent actually - you missed a good evening.

\sarcasm

8. anon   
Mar 13 2002 14:36
 

Maybe the C stands for CTobaiwaMudede ....that's awfully similar to the returning officer of Zimbabwe's elections, isn't it?

Only joking, David :-)

9. Bob   
Mar 13 2002 17:38
 

I will be voting no. I can get discounts anyway.

Mar 13 2002 18:20
 

I disagree with our esteemed returning officer, whatever the C stands for:

The attendence for both debates was entirely predictable.

Mar 13 2002 18:59
 

I think the "C" stands for "cuts in our budgets if we join the NUS".

Mar 13 2002 19:34
 

Quite right. The NUS is just a completely waste of space - but then so am I.

Mar 13 2002 20:52
 

I agree. NUS is a waste of space, time and money. What we want is representation at a London level - and we already get that free from ULU!

Mar 20 2002 13:54
 

I think that NUS should be looking at these dicussions and trying to better itself. It's time to show that NUS will not be pushed by the Political parties, It's time for NUS to start being accountable for its actions other wise I foreseen affilations dropping very quickly.

Mar 21 2002 15:02
 

Yes, all you need to do is to "read" London Student (the voice of 12 students in London) and see the NUS candidates' manifestoes - all have some political affiliation. Oh, and Carli Harper-Penman is a ******* *****. Yuk. I see a tory is standing for National Treasurer - perhaps this is some attempt to bankrupt the NUS. Surely they are doing okay at that already!

Apr 18 2002 17:59
 

Andy, a belated reply, but I thought I'd say that I thought the Charing Cross debate was great! (Probably because I was chairing it.)

And I quite enjoyed threatening to throw you and Tasha out...

17. idris   
Aug 31 2002 14:20
 

Far from being "terribly unpredictable" (David Crispy, above), the turnout for the debate was merely predictably terrible.

Sep 02 2002 15:26
 

Idris, I thought the poem you penned (and read out) at the debate was particularly good. Would you be so kind as to post it here?

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