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38.4% turnout for SOLE

Jan 07 2003 17:20

Oliver Pell

SOLE, the replacement for the old LEQs, has seen an increased turnout across the board this year.

Dover Sole (Source: Delia On-line).

Figures from December's Student On-line Evaluation of lecturer performance show a substantial increase on the turnout at last year's LEQs - perhaps unsurprisingly given the crippling technical problems suffered last December.

Average turn-out across the college was 38.4%, with the highest turnout in the tiny Department of Bio-engineering, where 67.6% of students filled in the on-line questionnaire. Engineering departments occupy the top 5 places in the turnout table.

Bottom place goes to Computing with only a turnout of only 20.9% and the smallest increase on the previous year. Concerns had previously been raised about the possibility of low turnouts in that department because students were unable to login to SOLE using their "normal" username and password.

This first trial of the new system has not been without its set backs, including ISE students once again being faced with a screen informing them that they are not taking any options this year, but overall appears to have been far more successful than anyone dared hope - despite the lack of "public" union support for the scheme this time. Union President Sen Ganesh said that the Union was "quite happy with the turnout", adding that "we are very pleased with the way we have been working with college [on SOLE]."

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1. Random (ex) Student

Jan 07 2003 19:39

34% Turnout...

That's more than a Sabb election!!!!

Maybe we can:

Adapt the SOLE system for email voting
Offer students and incentive to vote
Stop electing c**p Sabbs
Be better than Another (Less Prestigious) University

2. Rob

Jan 07 2003 20:23

Now if they'd publish the results for a change, that'd be nice...

After all, why shouldn't students see what marks their lecturers have got? It might help first & second year students with their options choices (by avoiding the poorly taught ones)...

3. Zebedee

Jan 08 2003 10:55

Where can I find out the sole results?

4. ...

Jan 08 2003 11:03

Apparently 70% of 1st and 2nd year EE students filled it in.

5. Zebedee

Jan 08 2003 11:37

But 4th year EE returns were very poor!

More bribes in the form of printer credits. I'm currently on -7 credits so anything is welcome. Or I could just print in DoC for free if for once they stop booking out the rooms for exams.

6. Ned Lowe

Jan 08 2003 13:09

Zebedee,

I have the results - but I'm apparently not allowed to distribute the comments until any 'unnecessarily rude' comments have been removed.

I'm considering writing some sort of amazing front end to the results, to allow us to dynamically view 'worst lecturer', 'best course' etc etc, which could be used for any set of results. Then again, maybe I won't!

I would just like to say a big thankyou to those that did fill it out in Elec Eng, we came second in turnout, and as our dept is a properly sized one (unlike bio-engineering) I think we did the best!

7. Zebedee

Jan 08 2003 13:16

Ned,

Just CTRL+R, enter a swear word in the box "Search for" and enter wibble in the box "Replace with".

And repeat for every swear word you can think of!

Not bad considering the effort ISE had to go to log on!

8. Ned Lowe

Jan 08 2003 13:19

You're preaching to the choir! But rules are rules, and I'm supposed to meet with Prof Cheung to sort out what can be said and what can't. I have read through the comments, and although some of them are quite rightly harsh, none of them contain swearing or 'unnecessarily rude' comments.

9. Zebedee

Jan 08 2003 13:25

Harsh but fair!

Can you ask him when I get my printer credits from last term? I'm on -3 at the momment.

10. Ned Lowe

Jan 08 2003 14:54

Done.

Response: Very soon.

I'll give him a couple of days before going to kick ass...

11. Sam

Jan 08 2003 15:48

can we trade print credits for something useful?

and more importantly, do i get more print credits this year, even though i am resitting?

12. prince albert

Jan 08 2003 16:08

Umm - all this exciting talk of print credits makes me ask: Is it just Medics who don't get any? We have such a troubled existence...

13. woodstock

Jan 08 2003 17:24

Chemists don't get any print credits either, although use of printers in the undergraduate computer room is free, you just have to provide your own paper.

14. Zebedee

Jan 08 2003 18:38

So you have to walk around with a couple of reams of paper?

15. Rob

Jan 08 2003 19:52

Does that mean if I walk over to the chemistry department I can print for free? Cool. I'll just grab the paper from the printers in our dept....

And no, medics are not the only ones who weren't bribed. No one offered us (aero) anything for free. And my print credits are negative, as well....

16. Sunil

Jan 08 2003 21:52

Student comments about lecturers don't mean all that much. While some of the nasty ones are more than justified, a lot of it is just whingeing on the part of students who are frankly too stupid for the courses they are doing. IT wouldn't matter if God wasd teaching them, they still wouldn't "get" a lot of the material and would still rather blame the lecturer than themselves.

Some of the finest lecturers I have been fortunate to have been taught by have had to endure this year upon year.

[speaking as a former year rep, dep rep and academic affairs officer]

17. Sam

Jan 08 2003 22:39

Sunil,

> a lot of it is just whingeing on the part of students who are frankly too stupid for the courses they are doing.

I really hope for your sake you're on for a 1st...

18. Mustafa Arif

Jan 09 2003 01:50

Sam,

Sunil has already got a first. Last year in fact, the year that you graduated with er...?

[Sunil's doing a PhD now, with Igor.]

19. Sam

Jan 09 2003 10:55

Ahh...

That Sunil...

in which case i shall put the statement down to pure arrogance.

20. Sunil

Jan 10 2003 12:21

Nothing to do with getting a 1st. The fellow ISE graduate also doing a PhD alongside me obtained a "lowly" 2:1 and is one of the smartest people I have ever met. And we all know plenty of ppl on for or with firsts who are downright dumb.

Fact is, dumb students will complain bitterly about brilliant lecturers who deal with difficult topics.

[The one I have in mind is the now-retired Prof Laurie Turner from EEE.]

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