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Imperial hall rents set to rise again.

Mar 18 2004 12:54
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Many of the rumours hanging over Imperial College halls of residence were answered today at the 4th meeting of the ICU accommodation committee. As expected, hall rents are set for another 'above inflation' increase. Rents for the 2004-2005 session will be rising by an average of 4.8%, with Beit and the other premier halls seeing a 6% increase. To compensate for this rents in the halls that urgently require renovation, Fisher and Southside, will only see modest increases of 3% next year. This rent increase, considered in conjunction with the large jump imposed last year of an average of 10%, will bring an ensuite, single room in Beit up to a cost of £135 per week.

Although this was important information, some of the other issues discussed at the meeting were even more startling. With three halls currently earmarked for renovation, Fisher, Linstead and the Southside complex, it was made clear that the cheapest refurbishment option, with a total saving of nearly £10million, would see both Linstead and Southside shut at the same time. Southside is currently earmarked for closure in June 2005 but if Linstead were to close at the same time the Fisher refurbishment would be pushed back to summer 2007 at the earliest. It was also suggested that Southside, due to the current high costs of maintenance, might not be reopen in October 2004, which would come as a shock to those reapps and subwardens already planning to live there next year.

This possible double closure, taking 550 beds out of the accommodation system, would see a dramatic decrease in hall space, putting serious pressure on the first year guarantee. Rough calculations carried out by Katherine McGinn, Deputy President for Education and Welfare, showed that, in the event of both halls shutting at the same time, the first year guarantee could just be met if all available space in Imperial College halls was utilised. This however takes into account space at Clayponds and Parsons House which are currently used by older undergraduates and many PhD students new to Imperial. A need to find alternative accommodation therefore will become pressing if both Southside and Linstead were to be shut at the same time. When questioned about the first year guarantee, Sharine Brown, Head of Residences, admitted looking into alternative accommodation for first year undergraduates that could be obtained on a short term basis to cover any shortfall in October 2005.

The reduction in available hall space for the 2005-2006 session has also been increased by two other strategic moves currently being undertaken. The first will see the closure of Brabazon in June, with the loss of 70 postgraduate spaces. The second move is the rolling reduction of capacity in Evelyn Gardens which will see many small double rooms converted into larger, more expensive singles. The loss of Brabazon has been on the cards since the start of this academic year but will only add to the confusion about where future postgraduate students will live when they arrive in London. As the Rector, Sir Richard Sykes, has made clear on many occasions recently, the value of postgraduate research at Imperial has been promoted due to extra money that can be attracted to college. The loss of good housing for incoming PhD students may have a negative impact, coupled with London's high living costs, when Imperial tries to attract the cream of research talent.

Other questions were also raised about facilities that could be lost if the Southside complex were to close early. It was made clear that the Health Centre, dentist and Southside gym would remain open even if the hall above was to close in 2004. However, many new questions have now been raised as an outcome of this meeting.

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Mar 18 2004 18:16
 

Sod the halls places - what's happening to the bar ;)

Mar 18 2004 19:15
 

£135 quid a week???

I am not impressed.

How do they expect students to fork out that kind of money on top of the tuition fees and living in LOndon. It's probably £100 to share now! This is absurd isn't it??? It promotes elitism and stupid rich kids at Imperial.

At least Carlsbergs the same price - or are they going to slap £30 on a pint too?

Mar 19 2004 00:47
 

I cannot see how the college thinks that students can afford £135/week - that would get you a half decent flat in south ken..... muppets.

Mar 19 2004 09:27
 

Unfortunately, I believe that's probably the aim. Get more first year undergrads into private accommodation, and it's less burden on College. Given the amount College apparently lose on undergraduates, it makes sense for them to save where they can, and milk the more well off students for more cash.

As has been discussed before, this is a poor plan from a social point of view. If you're not actively involved in a club or society, then most of your friends are going to come from halls. Take away that meeting place for first years, and you're setting yourself a big social challenge.

Mar 19 2004 09:40
 

what the f**k is our union doing to stop this?

Mar 19 2004 13:28
 

Imperial College is no longer going to have ANY sort of community spirit. I don't know about you but most of my friends I met in my first year. If I was paying £135 a week I would have no friends - I'd be tryng to make money on weekends, and urgh....the Union is going to do nothing right just bow down to college and accept this farce. What's the point of having a Union which doesn't protect the interests of its students and just obeys Syko?

Mar 19 2004 23:25
 

These rises are horrific. I, and all our members would expect our student union to fight this. Not to just accept this lying down, but organising a campaign against this. Again, I ask, what is our union doing about this?

Ameet

8. Ameet   
Mar 20 2004 08:19
 

excuse me?

Mar 20 2004 12:21
 

The Union's days are numbered.

Let's face it, if they aren't going to do anything about this then what's the point of having a Union?

Mar 20 2004 12:28
 

I think we should abolish the Union.

What's the point if Union's going to tow the line with college on every issue? Let's just hand it over to college to cut corners and save money.

And what happened about 24hr libraries?

11. Gary   
Mar 20 2004 17:18
 

What happened about 24hr library? - this

24 hours a day from 29th March.

12. Ameet   
Mar 20 2004 21:16
 

i agree. this is totally unacceptable. direct action from our union is required.

13. amram   
Mar 20 2004 22:41
 

i think that curiuos doesn't know the election results?

14. ...   
Mar 20 2004 23:45
 

Where did the £135 figure come from?

The maximum figure put forward was £132 in Beit (10% increase).

After the consultation process a month or so ago rents have gone up no more than 6%

15. cedric   
Mar 21 2004 10:34
 

ABOLISHED????

Surely you arent a member of any clubs or societies then, are you? If it werent for our fine union, you wouldnt have the wonderful privilege of being able to join one of the hundreds of clubs and societies that thrive (to some extent) under it. It is true that £135 (or £132 for that matter) is out of order for a room in Beit - last year, I "only" payed £95 a week, and that did in most of my loan.

Perhaps rather than making double rooms into single rooms, we could have more double rooms, to accomodate more people for less such as is the case on most campuses in the states? In Beit, there are some single rooms that could easily space 2 people... Consider that the bigger rooms there are the en-suite ones, then surely this cannot be bad?

....

Mar 21 2004 11:09
 

Yes, abolished. I'm sure College will be interested in having a bit more property and it will cut corners as well. Can anybody give me a reason why not? We have not had representation on the issues that concern us - we just tow the line with college.

As for the clubs and scieties - they don't need the Union. They might get better funding if the whole system is integrated with College. If students aren't going to represent the interests of students then let's abolish the Union. Why not? £132 quid for a room in first year??

Students at Imperial have a hard time as it is - the place is not somewhere most normal people would like to spend the prime of their lives. Why? Because Imperial College hates undergraduates since we COST THEM MONEY. That's why they want tuition fees and that's why we need representation who can show some balls on issues like these.

Mar 21 2004 11:37
 

Consultation process figures, ie £132, are basic rent only and do not include other charges, an obvious one is the hall amenities charge which is added by the warden, this varies from hall to hall but is in the region of £5 per week.

18. ...   
Mar 21 2004 15:53
 

My point was the £132 amount was on the consultation document as the 10% increase for some rooms.

At the meeting we were told 6% was the maximum increase ie £126 for the best rooms in Beit (+ ammenities)

Mar 21 2004 17:08
 

If you want to abolish ICU then you'll need to change the education act, it's probably not worth the bother.

I was going to suggest that the welfare campaigns officer should take up this cause, however seeing as he has just resigned this is probably an issue for the DPEW and / or President.

I strongly suggest that this issue is raised and discussed at tomorrow's council meeting.

Mar 21 2004 18:07
 

You don't need to change the education act.

The education act also requires that the 'Union' should act fairly and democratically in the interests of the students. If you allow College to walk all over the students on this issue, Union is failing the students, it is in direct contravention of law, and it should be abolished and rebranded as ICSAC 'Imperial College Students Administrative Council' - the word Union no longer being applicable.

Mar 21 2004 18:50
 

It is correct that you wouldn't need to change the Education Act. You would, however, need to change Imperial College's Royal Charter...

Mar 21 2004 19:27
 

Yes, the Royal Charter requires there be an "Imperial College Student Union". But that doesn't take anything away from the fact that in this instance the Union should really make its voice heard.

I guess college would make the same old arguments about living in London etc. - but 1st year accomodation must be defended.

Mar 21 2004 19:39
 
Mar 21 2004 19:52
 

although that probably says more about the morals of the student in question

Mar 21 2004 22:38
 

How, exactly, should the union stop these rises going through?

The college sets the rates, and although the Union can state their opposition to them, the Union cannot stop them being set.

The only way students have stopped similar rises in the past has been by way of a rent boycott: this could be suggested to the college as a course of action the union would contemplate suggesting, but I believe that whoever presented this would be laughed at. Due to the culture of most students here – the fact that many students in halls are from overseas, have hall fees met by parents, etc. – the numbers who participated in such a boycott would be either be small enough to allow the college to simply expel those involved, or for this to be perceived to be the case, leading to even fewer people taking part.

Essentially, there is nothing that the Union can do about this, as far as I can see.

Anyone have any suggestions as to a course of action?

Mar 22 2004 00:03
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/3554121.stm

It would seem she has actually done the deal...

Mar 22 2004 00:24
 

NEWS BREAKING!!!

The deal has been done!

This is unbelievable - apparently they are going to turn the story into a movie called 'Indecent Tuition-Fees Proposal'.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news2.shtml

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